Manchester United are to ask their own supporters for ways to help eradicate the "disgusting" chants that are aimed at Arsène Wenger whenever Arsenal visit Old Trafford.
Wenger was subjected to a chorus of "sit down you paedophile" during Arsenal's 2-1 defeat on Saturday and United are so embarrassed that the club's chief executive, David Gill, is to raise the matter as a lead item with a panel of influential supporters.
The club's official fans' forum is due to hold its first meeting of the season in October and Gill, who will chair the event, will "appeal for ideas as to how to curb it", according to a club spokesman.
United received a complaint from an Arsenal supporters' group after the match but are uncertain about how to tackle the problem when there are so many people taking part.
Philip Townsend, the director of communications at Old Trafford, said: "We have gone on the record – several times – about this disgusting chant. We don't condone it and have appealed to fans several times in the past – through supporters' groups, the matchday programme and MUTV, but to no avail. There are many chants that opposing fans find objectionable, and this is certainly one to which all decent supporters should object."
Wenger has been subjected to the same chants at other grounds but there is a sense at Arsenal that it is worse at Old Trafford even though Sir Alex Ferguson has also appealed to the supporters to put an end to it. He described as "ridiculous" the chants last season, saying "the police should be doing more".
Ferguson added: "They [the police] should be stepping in. But Manchester United and its supporters should also know very well the chants that have been levelled at us over the years – ie, songs about Munich [air disaster] – and understand the sensitivity that is felt by members of this club. I don't agree with it at all. There's enough to think about and admire in the game without resorting to denigrating people."
So what does everyone think? Is it not football without the really nasty chants? Free speech problems? I personally think this is great but am not sure if we'll actually see any change. Like Sir Alex mentioned it's not like any club can say they haven't done things like this in the past and most of the time it's only a small portion of a club's fans ruining the reputation for everyone else.