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16 May 2012 @ 12:02 am
Roy Hodgson drops Rio Ferdinand from England squad for Euro 2012  


Euro 2012: England squad announcement - live!
Courtesy of The Guardian

Goalkeepers - Green (West Ham), Hart (Man City) Ruddy (Norwich)
Defenders - Baines (Everton), Cahill (Chelsea), Cole (Chelsea), Johnson (Liverpool), Jones (Man Utd), Lescott (Man City), Terry (Chelsea)
Midfielders - Barry (Man City), Downing (Liverpool), Gerrard (Liverpool), Lampard (Chelsea), Milner (Man City), Parker (Tottenham), Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Walcott (Arsenal), Young (Man Utd)
Forwards - Carroll (Liverpool), Rooney (Man Utd), Welbeck (Man Utd), Defoe (Tottenham)

Rio Ferdinand's broken relationship with John Terry may have ended his England career after Roy Hodgson decided to sacrifice the Manchester United defender from his Euro 2012 plans.

Hodgson contacted Ferdinand on Tuesday to inform him that he would not be including him in his squad for the tournament in Poland and Ukraine next month. The England manager then travelled to Chelsea's training ground where he met Terry for the first time since taking the job and spoke at length to him and the club's other England internationals about his plans for the competition.

Hodgson also rang Peter Crouch, the Stoke City striker, and perhaps most surprisingly Micah Richards, the Manchester City right-back, to let them know that they were also being left out.

By that stage Hodgson had learned that Kyle Walker, the Tottenham Hotspur defender, will miss the tournament because of a broken toe. The Professional Footballers' Association's young player of the year suffered the injury during the game at Bolton Wanderers on 2 April and was assessed on Monday night. The 21-year-old would have been Hodgson's first-choice at right‑back and his absence makes it a particular surprise that Richards is being omitted. However, Hodgson does have alternatives for the position in the form of Phil Jones and Glen Johnson.

Ferdinand's own disappointment is tinged by a sense of bitterness as he reflects on the end of a 14-year international career, encompassing 82 caps and three World Cups. The official line Hodgson will use is that it is purely because Ferdinand is now 33 and has suffered from recurrent back and calf injuries over the past three seasons. However, a dismayed Ferdinand is convinced it is directly linked to his issues with Terry and the potential divisions that might have been caused if the two centre-backs were both involved.

Hodgson, who has also cancelled a training camp in Spain next week, is acutely aware of the bad feeling that exists since Terry was accused of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand, Rio's younger brother, during Chelsea's match at Queens Park Rangers in October. Terry denies the charge, to be heard at Westminster magistrates' court on 9 July, and Hodgson's early inquiries have revealed that the case has already caused divisions in the England squad. The fear uppermost in Hodgson's mind was that those issues would intensify during a month away when all the feedback he has received has indicated that there is no hope of an end to impasse in the relations. In the end, he has concluded that it is unworkable.

Ferdinand's dismay is not eased by the fact Jones, almost guaranteed to get a place in the squad, is one of his understudies at club level, while Hodgson also planned to select Chris Smalling, another of the players behind him in the pecking order at Old Trafford.

Smalling's groin injury had opened another place but Hodgson has decided Ferdinand's vast tournament experience is not needed when there are younger candidates such as Joleon Lescott and Gary Cahill. Hodgson is also aware Jones can play at right-back or in the centre and that versatility could be particularly useful now Walker is out of the competition. In total, England now have five players ruled out through injury, with Jack Wilshere, Michael Dawson, Tom Huddlestone and Jack Rodwell also not in contention. Darren Bent, battling to prove his fitness after an ankle operation, may be a sixth.

Meanwhile, Steven Gerrard, the first senior England player Hodgson contacted after becoming manager, is favourite to be made captain.

Ferdinand's own injury issues have played a part in Hodgson's thinking. The manager tried to ease the disappointment by ringing Ferdinand to break the news himself and he is entitled to point out it would have been a gamble relying on his fitness when England have three games in a week. Ferdinand, however, has not missed a game through injury since January. He has played all of United's last 12 games and will know, almost certainly, that he will not get another chance at this level.


Uh oh. DRAMA.

Because we all know what this really means, right?

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yukimeru: HP: Do not wantyukimeru on May 15th, 2012 10:16 pm (UTC)
I just read elsewhere that Terry would be out of the call up and Ferdinand would be in? Now I'm confused :(
untxiuntxi on May 15th, 2012 10:19 pm (UTC)
I don't know, the Rio thing was all over Twitter for the past hour, and then The Guardian broke the news. So I'm guessing it's legit.
(no subject) - grrliz on May 15th, 2012 10:38 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - jenny_grey on May 15th, 2012 10:42 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - untxi on May 15th, 2012 10:42 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - grrliz on May 15th, 2012 10:46 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - untxi on May 15th, 2012 10:49 pm (UTC) (Expand)
it's mejenny_grey on May 15th, 2012 10:21 pm (UTC)
more disappointed about micah richards than anything else
Kathrinekrisseems on May 15th, 2012 10:35 pm (UTC)
Esp with Walker being out. That really only leaves Glen Johnson doesn't it? Bad call if true.
(no subject) - domster07 on May 16th, 2012 01:02 am (UTC) (Expand)
hobnailedbootshobnailedboots on May 15th, 2012 10:32 pm (UTC)
Damn. I'd be happy with Gerrard as captain but I want Terry out rather than Ferdinand.
untxiuntxi on May 15th, 2012 10:39 pm (UTC)
Basic human decency -wise, I think we can pretty much all agree with that - many Chelsea supporters included, I'd risk.
(no subject) - hobnailedboots on May 15th, 2012 10:56 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Liz: Football -- LFC -- Stevie G / John Terrygrrliz on May 15th, 2012 10:44 pm (UTC)
The world rewards John Terry for being a terrible human being yet again! (Assuming it is indeed Ferdinand and not Terry who got dropped, since there are conflicting stories floating around.)

I think it's fine to consider dropping Ferdinand if indeed there are concerns about his age plus his fitness, but if that's just a cover story for the true reason then this is gross, Roy.
This is a gift, it comes with a pricecyclechicster on May 15th, 2012 11:20 pm (UTC)
I suspect grossness, tbh.
(no subject) - yeats on May 15th, 2012 11:33 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - robinsparkle on May 16th, 2012 10:59 am (UTC) (Expand)
This is a gift, it comes with a price: [CoAff] Auggie cyclechicster on May 15th, 2012 11:19 pm (UTC)
Iiiiif Rio's out, Terry should be out as well, let's be real. First of all, he's been a horrible human being lately and needs to be properly disciplined; second, because he's a crap defender now and is old.
Rachelverses on May 15th, 2012 11:29 pm (UTC)
I seriously hope he's out. It'd be a kick in the teeth to his getting the trial postponed.
(no subject) - allinred on May 15th, 2012 11:58 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Rachelverses on May 15th, 2012 11:29 pm (UTC)
Lol, wow.
Laurenblackjedii on May 15th, 2012 11:29 pm (UTC)
why would you leave Crouch out o.o:

For the sheer height advantage alone when taking corners...
lady_teazle: Lahmlady_teazle on May 17th, 2012 02:53 am (UTC)
They have Carroll for height, what do they need Crouch for? Aside from the whole "he scores way more goals thing" I mean. :p
(no subject) - blackjedii on May 17th, 2012 02:58 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - lady_teazle on May 17th, 2012 03:04 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - blackjedii on May 17th, 2012 07:18 am (UTC) (Expand)
Laurenblackjedii on May 15th, 2012 11:31 pm (UTC)
Also Klose is in his thirties, plays ~*successfully*~ as a striker, has had injuries throughout the year and yet was welcomed into the German training camp on Monday - still with a relatively minor ankle injury.

Your argument about "lol too old, injury prone" is invalid, yo.
Lizgrrliz on May 15th, 2012 11:43 pm (UTC)
Klose is proven tournament dynamite, though, so I feel like he's a special case. (Not sure how much playing time he's going to get at Euro, anyway; I know Jogi usually prefers Miro over Mario, but Mario's been in excellent form this year.)
(no subject) - blackjedii on May 16th, 2012 12:37 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - marsyke on May 16th, 2012 10:43 am (UTC) (Expand)
interplanetary megastellar hydrostaticrunandtelldat on May 15th, 2012 11:48 pm (UTC)
I see.
Redallinred on May 15th, 2012 11:56 pm (UTC)
Terry doesn't stand a chance, he is a disaster area and many people involved with the NT are against him going. His inclusion will raise issues about the captaincy which he absolutely will not have even if he is miraculously included. Will Gerard, who is the next likely candidate, want Terry hanging around, bringing his "influence" to the dressing room? Will anyone? No. I will be shocked if Terry goes.

Having said all that, with Rio out, I don't know if we are brave enough to go without an experienced CB, I hope so, it will spell a new dawn. I really want us to move on from this failed generation. I do feel bad for Rio though, it is a sour way to end your international career, especially if Terry goes.

The main thing though is that the Euros are for the future, not to retread old ground. I'm so happy G.Neville is involved and strongly suspect Hodgson agrees with his clear out beliefs.
untxiuntxi on May 16th, 2012 12:16 am (UTC)
The main thing though is that the Euros are for the future, not to retread old ground. I'm so happy G.Neville is involved and strongly suspect Hodgson agrees with his clear out beliefs.

Completely agree with this. If there's something I've learnt out of the whole Liverpool catastrophe (which I most definitely won't get into now), is that Hodgson will certainly benefit from the presence of a strong-minded pragmatist like Neville backing him up and not letting his confidence crumble.

I never cared for England as a NT, but I'm actually starting to like this side. Now if only Terry was indeed dropped...

Edited at 2012-05-16 12:16 am (UTC)
(no subject) - allinred on May 16th, 2012 01:05 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - blackjedii on May 16th, 2012 12:41 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - allinred on May 16th, 2012 01:16 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - jackjonesie on May 16th, 2012 01:40 am (UTC) (Expand)
the fandom librarian: burn this whole city downmeretricula on May 16th, 2012 01:04 am (UTC)
I can't believe I am being suckered into caring about the fucking English NT drama, but seriously: what does Micah have to do? oh well, at least they won't have to change his song too much...

he doesn't play for England 'cause Capello Hodgson is a twat
Mayhem Parva: Big Bang Theory Supermen(nami86)raincitygirl on May 17th, 2012 12:12 am (UTC)
I know. Richards has been playing so well this season, and now he doesn't get a call-up with Hodgson. I thought it was just Capello who was blind to his talents.
candyrushhcandyrushh on May 16th, 2012 01:50 am (UTC)
well his form is nonexistent so yeah. if this is about the terry situation then wow.
i think they shouldve suspended terry from the team anyway. i'm over this england situation, its the
alleged racism im more worried about.
Stef: bunnyperpoodlewhisperer on May 16th, 2012 02:57 am (UTC)
Obviously I'm not England's biggest supporter in hurr, but seriously? Omitting Micah Richards? Okay then.

Also, LOL if Rio gets the snub while Terry gets a spot. Ongoing investigation aside, he's been truly shit lately. More of a liability than an advantage, but hey; go ahead Roy!
templargirl: LLORENTEFFStemplargirl on May 16th, 2012 05:27 am (UTC)
I wonder if you have to be stupid to run for England manager?

Because really, come on. Terry is the kind of guy who divides lockerrooms and has proven to be a complete tool, I'd much rather have Ferdinand than him in the squad.

Micah out? Who in the name of the fuck is a better RB than him in England right now?

And Crouch is a guy you always want to have in your bench.

Honestly, with this, Spain's C team (the one without Athletic, Barcelona and Chelsea players) is better than England's A o_O
Queenqueenbathory on May 16th, 2012 06:31 pm (UTC)
"Terry is the kind of guy who divides lockerrooms and has proven to be a complete tool,"

the idle blue ronin ٩(-̮̮̃-̃)۶: driven kb24smea_chan on May 16th, 2012 06:29 am (UTC)
well whatever the case, one of them or both could go to the GB squad for the Olympics.
zparklemotionzparklemotion on May 16th, 2012 10:00 am (UTC)
negl English NT drama sustains me.

I feel bad for Rio if he's dropped, tho :/
noodlecookie: miranda 1noodlecookie on May 16th, 2012 12:13 pm (UTC)
Micah Richards
Michael Carrick
Never mind

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issycissyc on May 16th, 2012 12:56 pm (UTC)
why no micah richards? also, downing over adam johnson do me a favour please!
Redallinred on May 16th, 2012 01:26 pm (UTC)
I was about to make a new post. I'm so disappointed, Terry is like a cockroach, he survives everything! We then have Downing and the rest. smh I just hope Ox and Theo don't get injured.
yukimeru: Random: Vampire Lestatyukimeru on May 16th, 2012 01:43 pm (UTC)
oh my god, the cockroach!Terry thing killed me XDDDDDDDD
(no subject) - untxi on May 16th, 2012 02:00 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - allinred on May 16th, 2012 03:04 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - funkatronik on May 16th, 2012 03:27 pm (UTC) (Expand)
marsykemarsyke on May 16th, 2012 01:42 pm (UTC)
If I think about England in tournaments, the most spectacular on field thing is Beckham's free kick against Ecuador in 2006, so I'm curious how things will go.
The English seem to lack any form of team spirit. Maybe it would have been better to take some more players on training and kick out those who poison the atmosphere.
Hodgson is absolutely right that Terry is innocent until proven guilty but that doesn't mean it's a good thing to include.
Maybe Roy just wants to keep Lampard happy.This leads to another decade-old question;
"Can Gerrard and Lampard play together?" I assume Gerrard will play all games as a captain.

Hodgson has an advantage over Capello though, he doesn't have to choose the GK, Hart is set.
untxiuntxi on May 16th, 2012 02:09 pm (UTC)
The English seem to lack any form of team spirit.

I completely agree. I thought they'd figured out by now that undermining the manager from the get-go (and now the get-go isn't even the first game, it's squad announcement day) will never get them anywhere. Clearly I was wrong, as #hodgsonout was trending on Twitter as soon as the squad was announced.

And seriously-unpopular-opinion-time, but... I dislike Terry as much as the next person, but players should be picked because of their merits on the field, not because of how decent a human being they are. Had he been found guilty of the racism charges, that would be more than enough grounds to exclude him. But whether we like it or not, being a massive tit is not a criterion in itself.
(no subject) - marsyke on May 16th, 2012 05:12 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - untxi on May 16th, 2012 05:23 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - marsyke on May 16th, 2012 05:29 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - allinred on May 16th, 2012 03:18 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - marsyke on May 16th, 2012 05:24 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - poodlewhisperer on May 16th, 2012 05:44 pm (UTC) (Expand)
we_eat_coldcuts: Danny Sturridgewe_eat_coldcuts on May 16th, 2012 01:58 pm (UTC)
I just love that everyone is pointing out that Tim Howard scored more PL goals than Downing this year.

I don't know, I would have taken Crouch as a targetman rather than Carroll, and I think Holt or Hooper could have been an option rather than Defoe.

Enh, this squad probably won't make it out of the group without Rooney anyway, so it doesn't matter much.
Zilchrobinsparkle on May 16th, 2012 02:17 pm (UTC)
I'd rather Carroll go than Crouch just because he's younger and I'm all for younger players over the older ones. LOL about Howard scoring more than Downing. I hope he has more luck with the NT, poor guy
untxiuntxi on May 16th, 2012 02:44 pm (UTC)
Question - has any official announcement been made concerning the captaincy?
Because @LFC just twitted "Congratulations to Steven Gerrard, the new England captain."

EDIT - Oops, forget it. "Hodgson, who named Steven Gerrard as his captain...", says The Guardian.

Edited at 2012-05-16 02:50 pm (UTC)
Kerpow: Barklemeliadoul on May 16th, 2012 03:21 pm (UTC)
Kenny Dalghish is gone!

Oooh today is interesting. I understand dropping Rio but Roy should leave Terry, the drama magnet, behind too.
Stef: bunnyperpoodlewhisperer on May 16th, 2012 03:25 pm (UTC)
Oh lawd LOL




/insert Rooney's "FUCKING WHAT!" gif here


But LAWL England.
ghost_busting: legends utdghost_busting on May 16th, 2012 04:02 pm (UTC)
and Terry stays??? B u l l s h i t.

Lol Andy Carroll.

Yeah we're fucked. Oh well.
lady_teazle: Schweinilady_teazle on May 17th, 2012 02:39 am (UTC)
I think Andy is why Crouch is out. "We've got one tall guy, why do we need another!"
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